Conversing with time

I walk down the spiraling staircase from the common balcony. the corners of the dimly lit corridors of the art nouveau building guide me to the door of the apartment number 23. I breathe in, and enter the donjon. I am going to have a conversation with time.

“there's nothing in it for me to be socially accepting. I am after nothing. I see something that draws me or has the capacity to in a way 'use' me and I am all in.

if I would be after something, searching for something, hunting for something - which I've done in the past - I receive nothing. I know it's illogical in a sense, but that's my experience. when I am selfless and care not of myself but just shed all doubts when something summons me up, things happen as they are in a sense supposed to happen. people become enlightened, healed, mesmerized, whatever, and I feel I serve a purpose that suits me.

that's one difference between me and saralakali I've thought a lot about. throughout past months it has come up in our conversations, when she's been all over the place with her mind, begging for something to drag her to her senses again. she has the, rather common I'd say, issue of having her ego take as a part of itself the enlightenment she's progressing towards - meaning, that her ego bathes in the prospect of everything to gain: the social status, the magical capacities, the sense of 'being special,' all of that. I have non of it, never have had. I'm sort of allergic to it - it contradicts something I've learned on this path early on. can't pin point what.”

“between time and space is the heart of identity...”
 “yes, that was a big realization indeed. don't remember the extent of that, need to think about it... ah yes, it was the final point to which all the documentation led, from which it stemmed from, the spot where the snake bites its own tail.”

“I was just wondering at the image of a snake biting its own tail. it's an odd one. which is to say, does a snake ever actually bite its own tail? and why would it want to do that? I suspect that snakes never bite their own tail since it would be purposeless. oops! does that speak poorly of the metaphor? I say that because as I understood it the snake biting its tail was a symbol of the rothschilds and their plan for world domination, ie. one world government.

no? It's just one of those symbols I mistrust.”
“ach, I think the symbol is waaaaaay older and if it is tied to the rothschilds then I'd be interested to hear who coined it first. originally snake symbolized wisdom. snake biting its own tail then becomes a symbol of the wisdom being of and stemming from itself, being an endless loop without any touch to the external. I'd say, off the top of my head.”

“yeah, but still, inherent within the metaphor is a thing that never happens. you know what I mean? I prefer the unadorned circle. there's no misuse in that.”
“a thing that never happens - if you would have to guess how often a human being finds wisdom within himself, would you guess it's a thing that never happens? I'd guess out of the billions the percentage would be pretty close to representing at least an unlikely event.”“to put it another way, the snake is used not because snakes bite themselves and thus become wise, clearly they don't, rather the maker of the metaphor has an idea and then searches around looking for something to express it. and the snake biting itself was the best he could come up with.

and he does so not because of anything inherent within snakes and biting (of their own selves in particular) but in spite of the aforementioned. you know what I mean? and this inaptness of the symbol then leads me to wonder at the idea that went searching for one and effectively failed. I wonder to myself, how could it fail with such an obvious and simple idea? and I wonder if the obvious and simple idea isn't in fact, um... 'not so'. maybe there's a falsity to it? like there's a falsity to its symbol (ie. no such natural entity as a self-biting snake exists)? 

don't get your back up over this. It's just me wondering at a thing from a very fundamental level. given that everything is spun with 99% truth and a crucial 1% attached to it to otherwise corrupt it, I wonder if that might not be going on with ouroboros?”
“well, I'd say that as a symbol it ties into wisdom. when wisdom bites itself, keeping in mind that wisdom as such is attainable with a conscious mind, then we can be that loop of wisdom without a need for external stimuli, or whatever external. plus, if I remember correctly the snake eating its own tail is a metaphor that has existed in several cultures, independent of each others - that disputes the idea of a single person and his logical structures behind it. probably there were many. and like all symbols, they have developed through time. what's essential about them can always be discussed, but never known.

also, the snake as a symbols has co-existed in many cultures with the dragon. a dragon is a non-existent creature. something that is non-existent is as such an important symbol. for me it symbolizes that which we do not know inherently, but what we need to cultivate from ourselves. this relates to our capacity for enlightenment. nobody becomes enlightened by accident. symbols that reach out of this world symbolize it.”

“dragons existed mate. they were called dinosaurs. I've always found that interesting that so many disparate cultures should feature a creature that existed before humans did and which theoretically they couldn't possibly have known about. weird huh?”“dinosaurs weren't dragons. they didn't breathe fire or were they giant snakes flying through the air like the air were ether.”
“there were flying dinosaurs. pterodactyls. the birds are descended from them.”

“yes, but they still have nothing to do with the symbolical meaning of the dragon. it is a representation, a refined thought. when something is refined to be a symbol it always has more to it than nothing that has existed as such. they work similarly as do all great works of art.”

“still, it's interesting. dragons are clearly lizards of tremendous size and dinosaurs were precisely the same thing. that is kind of spooky.”

“dragons are more than just lizards of tremendous size. in the nordic mythology there are snakes of tremendous size. us mammals, we are baffled by those others that sizzle.”

“anyway... for me, whether I ever pull it off or not, I would actually like to arrive at a position where all these symbols are rendered superfluous. I think they're all too complicated. they're fraught. they seem to represent one thing and also its opposite. the further I go, the more convinced I am that an unbroken circle is the only symbol worth having. to a certain extent, rather than have the idea and then go searching for a less than perfect symbol, I want to find the perfect symbol and then see if it can't lead me to where I want to go. I wonder if that will work? I shall roll it around in my head.”

“depends what you want out of the symbols. if you want them to do something for you then you expect something on the line of infallibility of meaning from them. if you just appreciate their existence and know that as such they've worked to reflect things from our shared reality to billions of conscious minds throughout history, the issue of yours ceases to be altogether - especially if you remember that meaning is always under the domination of the mind, of the consciousness seeing any given symbol. once a symbol is drawn, there is no-one who dominates it. it is as it is, in a static state, from which a conscious mind and another will draw what they will.

some say there's something in symbols that tap to the subconscious. all I can say to them is that they're painting devils onto the walls of their minds.”

“no, the thing is, the metaphor is imperfect. we wouldn't be able to argue about it otherwise. where I'm coming from is that thing I wrote a while back about symbols, the word, in the beginning was the word, and the word was god. okay so as far as I'm concerned the word is a lie. I want to ditch it. certainly symbols. everything is impeachable and everything is corruptible. in that case I'm up for ditching it.

I want to strip things back to nothing and see what that looks like. this is mad I know and the only end point is with me as a naked, starving, gibbering saddhu. hell not even a saddhu, just an idiot. I don't know. those jails in sweden look pretty good...”
“I use twisting and ridiculing up to the point of showing to myself and others that the meaning of words and symbols comes down to the consciousness perceiving them. which is true of course. if you want to see what's behind symbols, well, that's in the moment beyond time and space kinda thing. I've sort of concluded to myself that language is a product of the ego - there's no language in the higher spheres.

and, I remember plato had a thought on that line, what with him being big on the 'world of ideas' lingering out there somewhere as it is commonly, falsely, interpreted.”

“umm... can't remember. tell me more.”

“plato, and some of his contemporaries, thought that the soul of man originates from the 'true reality,' and after becoming trapped into the body it forgets all it has known before. according to them, through the process of anamnesis one can remember and 'see' the ideas that represent eternal truths. it is unclear to me whether, on plato's opinion, there existed any language in this 'true reality' or not. perhaps plato saw the use of language unimportant in the higher spheres, for what does one need to communicate in a sphere where everything is known by everyone?”

“hmm... very good, but did plato ever make it there do we know? I suspect not. he didn't get there and I'm on a fool's errand but whatever. in the meantime I'm sort of packing (which is to say throwing things away) as if I was going. particularly stuff I don't need. and especially stuff (going with the travel metaphor now) that will get me held up by the airport security. I can explain to them that it's just a knife and a very useful thing and the fact that others have misused it and harmed people with it doesn't mean all knives are bad etc. etc. etc. but me on this trip, I don't want anything to hold me down. if it isn't perfect I ditch it.

mind you, I can already see the errors in that metaphor. do you want to shoot it down or will I?”

“you do, I marvel.”

“well, in this case I have it arse about with the airport security guy. the symbols I want to ditch on account of being misused by villains would equate to him having those things and insisting I use them. I'm the one who says they're bad and that I shouldn't have them. 

no wait, it's more interesting than that. 

forget the posited truth whereby 'terrorists are bad and we must stop them.' there are no terrorists apart from manufactured ones. the death cult likes terrorists. the more the better. they want me to have a knife. the knife / the ouroboros / the black vs white / the hegelian dialect, all of it, it suits them utterly. by using it, their corrupted and corruptible models, I become the person they want. of course they can fight me. but if I shed all of those things I can become untouchable. kind of thing. It's a thought...”

“yes, but that is a thought stemming from the polarization itself - can't you see it?”

“me: not yet.”
“and what was plato to make of it? if we view him as a 'priest,' meaning that his aims were ethereal, we'll never know. we cannot know of the paths from this sphere to the higher ones before we've walked them ourselves. they can be 'represented' in language but never will they be transferred through it. the paths can only be experienced. if we view plato as a warrior, he definitely did make it - he has been immortal in words for two thousand years already. 

now this all comes down to you and me and the old priest / warrior division. I get your point about ditching the symbols for the advancement of your path on the priest's track. but here on the warrior side of things I am content to play with the cards that have been thrown onto the table long time ago. I can't get rid of them. I could get rid of them only internally, but that's your path, not mine.  so I will do what I wish to do with them. and that's my fuck you for the death cult. whatever anyone wishes to use a symbol or a word for, I will have e a meaning of my own.

ditching something because it has been misused is but an illusion from the warrior perspective. being untouchable from such misuses is sticking one's head in the sand kind-of-a-thing, but ok of course if one wishes to walk the path in solitude, mindless of others. I've come to realize in the past week that part of my path is to live as I live for the benefit of others, helping them see the arbitrariness of whatever. I can't do that if I throw away the deck of cards they play with.”

“yeah I get it. in the meantime I use the symbols. I use buddha. I use darwin. and I declare them my buddha, and my darwin. so I'm still there. I'm sort of pre-packing, kind of thing. 

otherwise you mention warrior and I immediately think of a man with a sword in his hand. and throwing the sword away will not necessarily save you. it will just make you fight easier. but that's only because he hasn't gone the whole hog, so to speak. that means becoming a priest. did you ever see the killing fields? there's a crazy scene in it with these cambodian soldiers waving guns at everyone with lots of screaming and terror and no idea of who's going to get shot when suddenly this line of priests walks right through the middle of the whole thing and everyone stops and shuts up and lets them. mind you, it's just a movie. I expect that the khmer rouge shot all the priests. so my point is... I don't know. the truth is I have no idea what I'm doing.”
“there's all sorts of imagery on warriors. the way I see them has nothing to do with the stereotypical wavers of swords. being a warrior is about refining the ego. part of it is studying languages, concepts, symbols and such, and making one's own opinion of them, forming them to be part of a structure of one's own creation. which as a process and in its results stands to object all systems ever made to dominate the minds of men. that's the defining principle of a warrior.

the priest path for me is the one which aims at transcending the ego altogether, leaving it behind as an unnecessary drag. which it is of course, if one wishes to ascend to whatever. I sort of don't. I'm quite humble that way. but, as it is said it the oldest scriptures of buddhism, both the paths lead to the same state of enlightenment. both are part of the process of refining the soul, too complex for me to grasp but as a process it rings true to me. 

me: it's been a while since I said this but you are a goddamn genius. tell me why the priest and the warrior can't be the same thing. don't they both give up the ego?”
 “they are merely the sides of the same coin, respectfully. on the warrior path the ego is not given up - it is taken control of, dominated, driven. I realized a couple of years back that that's what I have to do. I was amidst of all the documenting when the realization came to me, somehow. the mind is like a car that can be driven or just left to go on autopilot. the priests just get off the car, slowly but surely, thus becoming happy and egoless. I aim at becoming such a skilled driver I don't even notice myself to drive, and be egoless in that way.”